Thursday, 5 November 2015

Book Club Mini-Meet: All Fall Down by Jennifer Weiner

Reno suggested this book for the monthly meet, we ended up going with another, but a bunch of us read it anyway. So! We discuss!


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    1. An old joke my mom tells is "What did the blind man say as he passed the fish market?" The punchline is what Charlie said. Ba dum dum

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    2. LOL that took a second, Reno!

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  2. Okay, I really enjoyed this book. I love Ms. Weiner. She manages to do the ol' "I laughed, I cried, I had a ball!" every time. It really hits close to home for a lot of us mothers and the responsibilities that we have.

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    1. I thought she was spot on with the over-exuberance of first time mothers/parents that have the luxury of time and money. Not that I haven't been guilty of some of those "crimes" in the past.

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  3. I also liked and disliked at the same time the open ending. I love a good wrap up in a terribly juvenile happy ending way.

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    1. I haven't finished yet, but don't worry about spoilers

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    2. Oh, I was gonna apologize Charlie!

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    3. Heck no. Here to discuss. I will still finish

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    4. I also like happy endings! $20, same as in town, Father.

      What I liked about the ending is the growth it showed. That being an end in itself. She didn't go chasing after her junkie friend from rehab, she went and waited and took care of herself without reverting to a bunch of unhealthy habits like she used to. Her pill habit came about because she was trying to take care of too much, too many, and at the end she didn't let it eat her. She sits down.

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    5. Also, I was ridiculously happy that her and her hubs were still kinda together, although I was NOT HAPPY with his behaviour in the book. What do you think about his pseudo-affair?

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    6. I don't agree with his actions, but I can kinda understand. His wife had totally withdrawn from him. I was impressed he didn't do her! LOL

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  4. I haven't finished the book yet, but I found it interesting in that Allison could be just about any woman in my neighborhood. Tons of SAHMs. Makes me wonder if any of them have a pill habit?

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    1. Yes! I was pretty sure she was me right until she started popping pills! I mean, we have the same diaper bag and everything!

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    2. Purell the heck out of the park bench.

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  5. I also really liked the book, always laugh and cry at her work too! There are some things that make me roll my eyes, though. For one thing, she usually shoehorns in something really specifically topical, in this case the Stubenfield rape case. It always looks clunky to me

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    1. Yes. And on top of being clunky, in a couple of years it makes the book feel very dated. But make she doesn't care about shelf life?

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    2. It makes it harder for reading, it's TOO topical. I remember reading Little Earthquakes and this long segue about a famous actor and it sounded all very familiar, but not quite familiar enough, so I didn't get who it was. Now, had I been reading it when it came oot, I'm sure I woulda known immediately.

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  6. I also didn't find Allison all that well formed in my brain physically, so I did what I normally do and picture the author herself

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  7. Oooh, and another thing Jennifer Weiner does that makes me groan, is the appropriation of other plots, or the JazzHand sequence, as I like to call them, in this case the talent show at rehab. Unnecessary, shoehorned in, rang false.

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    1. I also agree with this TTM. It rang untrue totally.

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  8. I should mention: I love Jennifer Weiner' s writing. Full stop. I just find those same things over and over

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    1. I will never stop reading her work, though!

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  9. What did you guys think about her friend? I thought she should have been in rehab right with her

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    1. Yes, can't remember name

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    2. I was conflicted on that. I can't decide to be honest.

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    3. Are we talking about park bench Janet?

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    4. Yes. Park bench Janet who craved her wine

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    5. I don't know either, Reno

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    6. Because we don't know if she stopped at 3 or 4 glasses of wine or carried on...........

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    7. Unfortunately, I'm not deep enough into it, but it seems that Janet's actions are left nebulous enough that, given our own state of mind, she could go either way.

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    8. It's actually the dependence on even one glass a day that signals addiction to me

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    9. Again, I haven't seen enough of Janet's behavior to form an educated opinion. I will defer to you ladies on this one.

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    10. Another good point. It's at first hard to grasp that a glass a day is indicative (a glass a day is good for you according to docs), but it really is if you think about it.

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    11. If that's what you are thinking about at the start of every day, if it's a dependence, if it's a crutch, those are the things indicative of addiction from what I know

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    12. It's the thought of sweet relief from the stress.

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    13. I remember feeling that very clearly about cigarettes

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    14. I think there are a lot of people who don't consider themselves addicted to cigarettes because they're not smoking a pack a day.

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    15. Exactly! At the time I was only having two single cigarettes a day, but I needed them more than when I was smoking a pack a day

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  10. I don't know about the whole never touching a pill until in her 30s either. From what I know of addiction, it would have been present way before that, maybe in different forms, but present for sure

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    1. That's a very good point.

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    2. Unless she has the addictive type personality. I thought that she got the pain pills after her pregnancy. Maybe she never floated in circles where pills were readily available, but after tying into them; something clicked?

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    3. Could be! But typically if people are self-medicating, they do it as they go along, not spring fully-formed at 35. However, pill popping is apparently the new thing amongst SAHMs and that demographic, as she mentions in the article she references (which I would bet MONEY was the seed of the book; she read an article and started bending it around her life to see how it would fit)

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    4. True. I was just addressing the pill popping. I would find it a bit hard to believe that there wasn't some alcohol abuse prior to the pills. Yeah, I agree that I don't see her going from Miss Clean to Doctor Shopping in her mid-30's

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    5. I was amazed at the amount of pills she popped! I can't take that shit. I just fall asleep. I had a terrible car accident in the 90's and was prescribed Vicodin. I took it for 2 days and couldn't stand it. Went to Ibuprofen 800 mg instead. I HATE pills and how they make me feel. Same when I had Mastitis. Advil, no Vicodin. Hate it.

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    6. I've never had anything really hardcore, and anything prescribed I would rarely take, so the numbers didn't really resonate with me either. It could have been a hundred, I had no frame of reference

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    7. I don't get the pill thing either. Maybe I'm just lucky in not having the right ones. Vikes just make me nauseous and makes all food taste metallic. Blegh

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  11. So, would you recommend this book to others? While I think that it's a good read, I definitely feel that the reader who's between 34 - 45 , with a couple of children is the optimal target audience. Just about anyone within those parameters can most likely find facets of behavior that they recognize from their own lives.

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    1. I recommended to my SIL and my mom.

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    2. I would for sure recommend it! I really love her books. When she nails it, she's unreal

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  12. So are we all done now? Anything else jump out at anyone?

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    1. 55 comments for just 3 peeps is awesome! I'm good!

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  13. Okay! Awesome recommendation, Reno! I didn't even know there was a new Jennifer Weiner book out, thanks so much for suggesting!

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  14. I had drama tonight re teenager. Sorry I checked out for awhile. Sigh.

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    1. Yes. Thanks sweet lady. My drama with 17 yr old could write it's own book. She's. .............very difficult. But also funny and super smart so there's that.

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