Tuesday, 5 January 2016

Discuss: Making a Murderer Season 1 All Spoilers All The Time

We were talking about watching this separately and discussing, let's do it! There will be SPOILERS all over this mofo, don't read until you've watched! Post away whatever you think.


Let's start where it begins with episode 1! So far this sounds like a Serial / The Jinx mashup, so I'm super curious.

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  1. Are you posting this from the future?

    Anyway, Vs 2&3 are back at school this week. Hurrah. So plenty of time to catch up on this. Expecting great things.

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    1. I am!!! I borrowed a Tardis and everything! I am so excited bout the return of schedule, I can't even say. Is V1 returning later?

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    2. V1 is here for another couple of weeks. Not sure whether that's a good or a bad thing. He's off to see his hero in concert before he goes back. Pete Doherty. That heroic type. Unsure if PD is currently in an un drugged enough state to actually perform an entire concert

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    3. For reals, how can THAT GUY be anyone's hero?? Is the music really good??

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  2. I'll be all over this later on tonight. Has anyone watched any yet?

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    1. I've seen the whole lot, we binged last week

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    2. Going to start tonight I hope!

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    3. It's brilliant, the best thing is there is no narrator so the story reveals itself without someone telling. That was what annoyed me about Serial, too much narration

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    4. That reminds me of the pivotal first season of Real Housewives of Orange County, one of the first reality shows to be presented without narration, so as not to seem judgy

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    5. The narration, by definition,really, is about the person narrating it, and the info is filtered through their bias. Which is why I couldn't listen to much of the Undisclosed Podcast

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    6. Ugh the Undisclosed podcast was so irritating. 3 people talking about a single unimportant fact for 20 minutes.

      They came up with some interesting things, but jeez dudes. Less is more sometimes you know?

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    7. I listened to one Undisclosed and that was enough for me.

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    8. I just couldn't get into it the same way as Serial. Maybe the narration was distracting in Serial, but it at least presented a somewhat less biased view, so not just one side of facts

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  3. Watching Episode two now! Wow!

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  4. You guys can go ahead and post thoughts as you think them! Like the old OITNB post a year ago, just post whenever and we all know not to check emailings or the post until we've watched. This is just for episode 1.

    I'm watching tonight after Work Out New York recap!

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  5. JFC. The FUCKERY. *MIND BLOWN*

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  6. Okay! Watched first episode

    I have to say, how he refused to plead guilty had a lot to do with his thinking that running his cousin off the road was a good deterrent

    How could they possibly COMPLETELY, willfully overlook Gregory Allen? WHEN HE WAS UNDER SURVEILLANCE

    I'm actually not surprised the AG report exonerated the sherrif's department, I understand that all levels of law enforcement and DAs and the like are very invested in maintaining convictions and keeping the knee on the necks. The appeals attorney said the same thing

    Which also makes me worry for Mr. Avery, Ive heard that in quite a few wrongful conviction cases, the former prisoners have a hard time adjusting to life on thr outside, especially when there isn't any admittance of wrongdoing or settlement

    When the victim called in about

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    1. When the VICTIM calls in about Gregory Allen???

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    2. All that and just WAIT until you see episode two. It's unbelievable. I don't even know what to think about who set that up.

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    3. Being awake at 5 AM is not fabulous BTW

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    4. We are watching the Jinx now...addicted to true crime!

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    5. I was just reading about that! Let me know!

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    6. Its so odd, he's so odd...I've watched it before but Mr Mae hadn't

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    7. I started it back when it came out, was very exciting with the arrests and all, but couldn't really get into it

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  7. So I've watched episode 2, should we discuss here or should I make a new post?

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  8. What the hell?

    Who killed her and who framed him???!!!

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    1. See, that's the thing! I can't honestly believe they would do that. EVEN THOUGH THEY TOTALLY ALREADY DID THAT. But I really really can't believe he did that, either!

      The key totally looked like a plant, which is why the confirmation of DNA was such a blow. And the smarmy press conferences. I mean

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    2. The evidence is so overwhelming; the DNA, the last stop being there, the body and car of course, although those are super big areas, so no big bicky there

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    3. EXACTLY! No way he did it, but who the hell else would do it?! It's crazy! I couldn't even believe it! Can't wait to watch more tonight!

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    4. Hubs thinks maybe a relative, so Imma keep my eye on those shifty bastages in episode 3 right now

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    5. Episode 3 is a game changer

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  9. Man, I want to punch that Special Prosecutor fair in the snout! Wipe that smarmy moustache right off!

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    1. The other guy couldn't stop smirking either, but Mr. Pompadour with the smarmy words was extry special

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    2. Want. To. Punch. The. Face. So. Bad.

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    3. Did you see the link I posted on Twitter, Reno? Sexty Ken

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  10. If you're up to that part . . .what do you guys think about Brendan?

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    1. I'm almost done with it and kid totes did it all by himself. When they first told what he said happened mybeyes rolled straight out of my head. GMAFB. Like Avery would have done ANY of that straight out of 18 years. It was so sordid and dramatic and nasty. No fucking way. Bad timing, man. Bad, bad timing.

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    2. And also, Avery isn't the type to *ever* do that sort of heinous crime anyway.

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    3. I've finished E4, and I dunno about him yet

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    4. Okay, seen some more. Kid may not have done it. Talked too soon. He is slow, and they used him. Curiouser and curiouser.

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    5. Th interview technique used by the special agents, is just . . . . wow.

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    6. That was sickening. Just sickening.

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    7. Huh. He says, "not really" about did he do anything.

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    8. What in the world with this poor murdered woman?

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    9. The interviewing techniques made me SO MAD!! And the kid being interviewed ALONE all the time! And the one where that guy made him say he was sorry, even though he TOTALLY said he didn't even do it! STABBAY

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  11. I'm keeping my eyes covered just in case. But i'm up to ep 3. I'm liking this.

    All so weird. Ive just seen Brendan arrested and saying that Steve was involved. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Tonights bedtime viewing. The old US justice system is very complicated. I'm confused about sheriffs and police and all the rest

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    1. I am as well. I don't see how they're allowed to do all that

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  12. So I have to say, at this point, given what was in that link above...I am kind of wondering if he DID do it. 9 reasons Steven Avery is guilty

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    1. Because when you strip it down, possible police misconduct aside:

      1) she was there
      2) her car was found there
      3) if what is in that link is true, she was already having issues with him - but surely she would have recognised the address?
      4) we don't actually know if he's a stone killer or not
      5) all that being found on his property...hard to burn someone 5 feet from someone's bedroom window without them noticing

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    2. Still circumstantial evidence at best when the police have spent EIGHT days at your property doing whatever the fark they want....

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    3. I just don't understand why they were allowed in there at all. It was being investigated by another county, but every major piece of evidence was found by members of the Manitowoc Sheriff's department. That Lieutenant Lenk is dodgy AF

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  13. This show is bringing up all my stabby feelings about how poor people are treated in the criminal justice system; they just have no clue and get pushed along and pushed along

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    1. The first defense attorney appointed to Brendan is just dreadful. I could not believe the way they tried to make him sign the plea deal.

      This kid really should be assessed by someone. He's not fit to make these statements.

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  14. Can I ask what epi everyone is up to?

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    1. 3 still. Watching more tonight.

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    2. I'm midway through 5, just post-needle-hole finding

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    3. I've finished 6 and I am just gobsmacked. Wait til you hear some of the forensic stuff

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    4. We finished it a few days ago...

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  15. The way I feel about this is very similar to Serial, he COULD have done it but the evidence is flawed and/or circumstantial at best. Plus, add in police interference and you have a mistrial. It's a sad indictment on the US judicial system. Also jury's are WHACK! No one should ever have to be judged by a group of their peers who may or may not have already decided their guilt, be unable to understand 'reasonable doubt' and could be easily influenced. Let a Judge judge them...

    The jurors are now saying they changed their 'not guilty' votes to 'guilty' as they feared for their safety and the judge coerced them somewhat.

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    1. That judge was fucked up. I know we only saw select footage, but every major motion filed by the defense seemed to be denied. He seemed determined to block them every step of the way

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    1. Ahhhhhhh! Brendan is saying he did, he didn't, he did, he didn't. Phew!

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    2. I don't know what his story is, but I feel for his poor mom

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    3. Good lord, his defense attorney sucked.

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    4. That was the worst, the investigator trying to make him take the plea was just disgusting

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  17. I made way too many assumptions in the first few epis. I am now calmed way the fuck down. What the entire fuck? Is all I have to say by now. I know nothing. Just nothing. #No idea

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  18. As someone who inhales Dateline and 48 hours mystery I was not super impressed with this. I enjoyed it, for sure, but didn't find it as riveting as everyone else seemed to.

    Ok, reading the post now. Im awful about posting before reading.

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